A Century of Trading – June 25th
Jeff Quinto, George Kleinman and Simon Townshend together have over 100 years of experience in the markets! That’s somewhat alarming to them but great news for you.
Call upon a century of experience and learn 6 trading techniques and money management strategies that these 3 traders use in the markets today.
At this one time, one day seminar in Los Angeles, Jeff, George and Simon will teach you techniques that have stood the test of time and that they personally use today. These are all straight forward, based upon sound logic and a century of experience in the markets.
Each of these 6 individual techniques can be used on its own and each one is more than capable of boosting your bottom line. Better still use them together as a powerful solution to long term trading success.
The 6 techniques you will learn are as follows (full details on the other 3 pages of this website):
- George’s Secret Indicator (and a complete strategy for using it)
- Behind the Chart (basic & advanced use in trend following and reversal trading)
- Don’t be Afraid of the Money (how professionals handle their capital)
- The Power of Natural Numbers (a breakthrough strategy for capturing profits)
- The Keys to the Kingdom (the much overlooked power of trade sizing)
- Overcoming Fear and Programming Confidence (turning a new trader into a survivor)
Best of all you can take any or all of these and start using them yourself straightaway on Monday morning.
To find out more, please visit: www.CenturyOfTrading.com
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“Greed is good”…except when is blows you out!
In Gordon Gekko’s universe greed may be good. Alas in my more modest little world greed is usually the end of many trading careers. Greed often manifests itself as trading with unrealistic size and that can be a time bomb!
One of the most frequent questions I get asked is “how much should I risk on each trade?” The irony here is that such an important question is one that I have to steer very clear of, as in my country that is a question I would need to be licenced to answer!!!
However that doesn’t stop me sharing my thoughts on the subject generally, nor does it prevent me revealing what I personally do, so let’s get on with it!
Mr 10%
First I want to tell you a quick story about a guy who has come to be known as “Mr 10%” among my circle of friends. I don’t know who he is, nor can I actually find him anymore. But Mr 10% was someone I found on the internet a few weeks ago who was urging traders “to risk no more than 10% of their capital on each trade”!
My guess is this is someone who has never traded in his life. Or if he has I am quite sure that just a few weeks on from seeing his ridiculous video, he is no longer trading. Risking 10% is an express ticket to the poor house and it is beyond my comprehension why anyone would be so foolish to even attempt such an idiotic thing.
Of course just to be clear throughout this article I am referring to trading capital and not just the balance in any particular brokerage account. Sure you can risk 10% of the $25k you have in an account if the other $250k of your trading capital is sitting the bank or in other accounts. I don’t have a problem with that at all. But if that $25k is your trading capital in its entirety…that is another matter altogether!
How about 0.1%?
At the other extreme, let’s say we are risking an incredibly small percentage of our capital on each trade, what then?
Well for most traders that would probably not be appropriate either as you are unlikely to make any money over the long run. So why bother?
There is however one situation where such a tiny stake would be the right answer and this is in a situation where the strategy being traded has a very low percentage of winning trades. This is not my scene at all, but I know of people who play for huge amounts on their successful trades at the expense of being paid regularly. Perhaps only 1 in 10 trades is a winner, but when they come around the winners are 20 or 30 times the size of the losers.
Even though I couldn’t live with those sorts of numbers, that is still a profitable strategy. But it will have huge losing runs! Huge! 50 to 100 losers on the trot are quite feasible in this scenario, so you would have to trade such an ugly system with tiny leverage in order to trade through the almost constant drawdowns.
The middle ground
Clearly in between these two fairly ludicrous extremes there lies a middle ground containing the right answer for most of us. What that right answer is depends on many different factors:
- Strategy winning percentage
- Relative size of average winners and average losers
- Capital preservation plan
- Personal risk tolerance
- Overall trading objectives
Every one of these factors varies between individuals, which is one of the reasons I cannot give a simple answer to this question I get asked so frequently, even if I was allowed to give personal advice.
Most of the professional traders I know regularly speak in terms of 0.5% to 2% being the “right” amount for them personally. Most of traders I know also work with similar sorts of statistics, i.e. 50%-75% winning trades and average winners being greater than or equal to average losers. So with a strategy with that sort of edge 0.5% to 2% seems to be a well-accepted order of magnitude.
Mr 1%
For me personally 1% is a comfortable place to be. I’ll never win trading competitions with this relatively conservative size, nor will I get blown out. It is a simple fact of life that if 2 out of 3 trades are winners and 1 out of 3 are losers, these will not materialise in a convenient win, win, lose, win, win, lose pattern. There will be long winning runs and clusters of losers. That is just how it is. So you have to be willing and able to trade through the drawdown periods. That means understanding the importance of your unit size and how dangerous greed in this area can be to your survival.
Any fool can make money during the easy times. But only those with commitment and sensible conservative leverage will survive the rough patches.
Yesterday I was doing some work with one of my partners on trade sizing. We have been slowly increasing our unit size and are still below this 1% level, but are homing in on that as the place we want to reach and then maintain.
We looked at the real time results since launch using a fixed but modest 1% risk per trade and a maximum loss per month capped at 5%. We can live with that and so can our investors. We can absorb a few losers here and there and not have to panic or worry about being blown out. This business is hard enough without having to endure stress that it completely avoidable.
At 1% risk this is the P/L since the strategy went live. You can see it still makes decent returns at this nice safe level of leverage:
Now let’s consider these other two extremes we discussed. At 0.1% risk we would be looking at a total return of 9.1% compared to the 136% we see above. At something less than 5% per year this is simply not enough to make the exercise worthwhile.
At 10% the numbers would be huge, too silly to quote. However even with a strategy this consistent those tiny little dips would have more than halved the capital – not quite a blowout but very close indeed and not something that many traders would live through.
Conclusion
I hope this illustrates the importance of finding an answer to this question that so many people ask, yet to which there is no “one size fits all” solution.
What I do know from my experience is that it is easy to start too low and slowly work upwards, whereas starting too high is likely to be fatal. In fact I strongly recommend to all of my clients that they start so low that they are paper trading. Only with some experience and confidence should they then venture to trading a single contract. Then over time slowly build up to whatever percentage of capital they have decided is right for them.
This way time is on your side and everyone who has followed that advice has ultimately thanked me for it and told me they have learned how to ride both the financial and emotional dips without ever risking being blow out before hardly starting. Every one of those that followed that advice remain with me today and their confidence levels remain resolutely high when handed a fistful of losers. Whereas sadly there have been others who are gone at the first little set back. I don’t know, but would be willing to bet that in every case these folk have been using too much leverage.
So if in doubt about the trade size you should be using – make the most balanced judgement you can and then halve it!
As a final thought on this topic – no trade should matter to you. It is just one of a long series.
As one of my friends likes to say “It is just one of 10,000 trades you will be taking. We are the house, we have the edge. Its just our job to keep taking the trades.” So if the next trade matters to you, or the next 2, or next 3…you know you are trading too big, so you need to work on this area of your trading plan.
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Perception is not always reality
…but can be a real risk to performance!
The last few weeks we have really been getting beaten up. At least that is how it feels. Many of my friends that trade the same strategy with me are feeling the same frustration as I am feeling. Few trades seem to be working and those that do just don’t deliver worthwhile profits.
At least that’s how bad it feels. Yet when we step back from the day to day activity and look at the facts, we see a rather different picture. Our daily strategy that usually has about 8 to 12 trades per month closed in November at all-time highs. December delivered a small loss equivalent to just 2 losing trades. January has been similar.
So in reality we are actually behind by about 4 losers. That’s all! Or put another way we are just 4 modest winning trades (or just a couple of decent winning trades) off of all-time highs!
That’s not exactly a bad situation is it? Yet we are hurting and I want to understand why?
The only conclusion I have been able to draw is that our perception is being benchmarked against recent history rather than what it is reasonable for us to expect. Psychologically we have become conditioned to expect to close every month at new equity highs, as that is exactly what we have been doing month after month for a long time. So relative to our benchmark and expectations we feel like we are really getting a good kicking.
However in reality, 4 losing trades is so immaterial traders wouldn’t normally even discuss it. So we are actually still in a good place, a place that many traders would be only too happy to have achieved.
So what’s the problem?
Well there actually is a very real problem. Our perception of doing badly takes us psychologically to a very dangerous place and we have to be very careful how we handle this. Feeling like we are doing badly is very destabilizing, even though it may not be true. This in turn can lead to irrational behaviour, to lack of concentration and to silly errors.
It can also create a feeling of desperation to get back on track quickly, which in turn can lead to cutting corners, to taking sub-optimal trades, to over trading and to sloppy trade management.
Together all of these things can easily conspire to create the poor performance that we are actually trying to avoid! This is why we have to be so careful about everything we do until this dangerous psychology is lifted.
So to counterbalance these risks we have to deliberately work to do the opposite – to minimise the number of trades we take, to double check we only take the best trades, to manage them strictly within the rules of our trading plan and to avoid impulsive, irrational decision making. In truth half of the battle is just being aware of these increased dangers we face at odd times like this. The other half is working on these opposites in order to achieve the balance that we are at risk of losing if we allow the false psychology to get in our way.
So watch out for this trap next time you feel you are going through a rough patch. Ask yourself from an objective standpoint “Am I really doing badly or is it just a perception?”. Then work hard to move the perception back into line with reality taking great care until the psychological trap has passed.
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Busy, busy, busy!
Well it has been a few weeks since I last had a chance to write any articles. My word I have been rushed off my feet these last few weeks, with so many exciting projects all going on at once.
But the main thing is that each of these represent progress in our trading business. All of a sudden technology has been THE focus, with revisions to websites, launching a new chat room and a planned iPhone app to name but three.
So that got me thinking that I should add some technology insights to my list of planned articles to share with you over the coming months. I get lots of people asking me about what charting and execution platforms to use, etc. As this is an ever changing landscape, I have made considerable changes to our own technology here this year. So this does seem like a timely topic. Watch out for the first one on charting platforms heading your way soon.
The end of an era
Of course tackling lots of additional projects is all well and good as long as the main business is doing well. For me there have been some fundamental revisions over the summer as a result of which we are in great shape in our trading. For more years than I care to remember the primary focus of our business has been short term scalping in the S&P, with a few other profitable but smaller scale strategies traded alongside this.
I am sure you don’t need me to tell you that S&P scalping is a business that has been in real decline over the last year or two. Over the summer we did some serious questioning of how our time is spent and the returns we get from that invested time. It became very clear that with relatively little time being spent trading other strategies that have had phenomenal returns over the the last couple of years, it was no longer possible to justify most of my time being spent glued to 1 minute S&P charts that have produced almost completely flat returns of late.
So my days (or is it decades?) as a short term scalper are now at an end! Or at least very much on hold until such a time as “freely traded markets” return to being freely traded and both volume and volatility make the the S&P scalping business a viable alternative once again. That might be next month of course, but after all this time I am not banking on a return to normality any time soon.
Today’s money is in the real moves not the noise
Stepping away from the short term noise is a great feeling once you get used to it. Even during the difficult market conditions we have been banking great regular profits with our longer term swing trades. October was our 20th month since going live with this strategy and our 19th profitable one.
Needless to say this is where much more of my time and capital is being focused now that scalping is off the cards. It was a difficult decision to make, but such a logical one. Longer term subscribers to this newsletter may recall that I have a small group of professional traders who also trade this strategy for their own accounts and who are also enjoying great success. Personally I am really enjoying the vibrant community that is growing among this group of traders who have all become great friends.
It is also a real bonus and a pleasure to have George Kleinman working with me and executing the trades for those members who want the returns but without the hassle of actually taking the trades themselves.
So all together, everything is progressing brilliantly and we are also having a great time.
Fancy joining this exclusive club?
It is about 6 months since I last took on anyone and have essentially kept the door tightly closed ever since then. But I have now decided to accept just a handful of new members as we run into the year end.
If you are serious about your trading success and would like to take a look at the most consistently profitable trading strategy I have ever seen in my near 30 years in the markets, then please pay us a visit at www.SeriousInvestmentReturns.com
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Slump busting (part 2)
Last time we discussed the theory of climbing back out of a dip having avoided the bulk of the drawdown that might have otherwise been experienced. During the recovery the aim is to increase size quickly in order to further capitalise on our change of fortune. This was the simple model we were working from:
This time I want to discuss some of the practical difficulties we have to face when translating this theory into reality.
The main problem we have is that the simple clean curve we see in theory is a very crude approximation for the noisy line that we will actually experience in real life. The second problem is that we need to be able to identify when the bottom of the dip has actually been formed in order for us to be able to move from reducing size to increasing size. If we can find a way to deal with these two factors, we can come surprisingly close to matching our theoretical model.
Identifying your bottom!
Let’s deal with identifying the bottom first as this is the first thing that we have to concern ourselves with in practice. In our model you should recall that during our first recovery month we are trading exactly the unit size as dictated by our capital preservation plan in the previous month. In other words we don’t have to worry about whether we have turned the corner or not during the month in which we actually do turn the corner. We simply know when this has happened by virtue of having a profitable month.
Next we have to deal with the noise issue. What if our profitable month was just a blip, just a bit of noise on a continuing downward path? That’s a serious concern in the real world that we have to be prepared to deal with if necessary and here is how to do it.
When you had your first profitable month you were trading with a tiny monthly risk of just 1.05% of capital, having cut back from a starting point of 8% at the previous equity high. The line in the sand is the equity low made at the close of the previous month and this must be defended at all costs.
The rule is simple – as you pull away from this line it becomes increasingly safe to increase trade size. However should you head back down towards it again you have to be prepared to cut size again were you to reach that equity low again. At the equity low, you immediately reset your trade size to whatever you were using during the 1.05% month, and reapply your capital preservation plan from that point going further down below that line. The safety net provided by the capital preservation plan takes precedence over everything else.
Increasing size
OK, so that deals with the worst possible outcome, which in reality is not bad at all. So let’s now consider how we operate once we do pull away from that equity low. Our objective is to double our size each month as we climb back out of the hole, until our original unit size is reached, equating to 8% monthly risk in this example.
So after the first profitable month (the 1.05% month), you could just move straight up to 2.11% which is next step up on the theoretical model. However this is where our practical noise problem has to be considered. In simple terms you have a month’s worth of profit under your belt so far and this is the buffer between where you start the next month and that line in the sand. If you double your unit size in one hit, you effectively halve the size of that buffer.
Is that what you really want to do in practice? Probably not. As you pull further and further away from the line in the sand, in becomes easier and easier to increase size and the additional risk becomes proportionately less. But in these early stages of recovery we need to be more guarded in practice than in theory. So here’s what we can do…
Split the month into 4 or 5 weeks and increase a little bit after each profitable week. This is a tactic that will effectively preserve that buffer you have whilst achieving the goal of increasing size. So for example if your previous size was say 6 contracts, don’t go straight up to 12 on the first day of the month, but maybe go to 8. As long as your first week at 8 contracts ends in profit go up to 10 for week 2. If your first week wasn’t profitable be pleased that you were trading 8 lots and not 12s and stick at 8 for the next week.
If week 1 was positive, go up to 10 in week 2. If week 3 is positive move up to 12 and maintain that for the remainder of the month. At the end of the month you ended at the desired size but avoided risking your buffer unduly. So yes in practice doing this costs you a few more days than in the noise free theoretical model. But so what? You just endured a 6 month drawdown and pulling away from that line in the sand as smoothly as possible is far more valuable than a few extra days in the overall scheme of things.
Now you have 2 months of buffer profits under your belt and you are well on your way to recovery. Until you make new equity highs always keep that line in the sand in place and be prepared to act accordingly.
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Slump Busting (part 1)
The markets appear to have stabilised after a most challenging period. For the first time in quite some while we seem to be seeing a period of more normal volatility. That is not to say that conditions are perfect as clearly they aren’t. However most markets are at least tradable once again. So we are in with a fighting chance of fulfilling our objectives.
I have spoken at length in the past about managing your equity curve when entering a period of drawdown. There is no doubt that recent months will have lead the majority of traders into some sort of drawdown. Now things are starting to look a little brighter, it is time to think about how we manage our way back out of a drawdown.
To some traders, myself included, managing your way into and back out of a drawdown can be one of the most powerful tools in the armoury, so this is a subject worthy of significant personal study. In this first article I want to cover the core principles of this technique and then next time I will expand upon this and discuss how we put the theory into practice.
Going Into The Hole
Let’s start at the beginning, with your capital preservation plan. The purpose of this is to ensure you retain the majority of your capital – however long and however bad a drawdown period you have to endure. Everyone has his or her own version of this, but I am going to use the simple model I gave you in Golden Rule #3. In this we have (a) a maximum allowable loss limit per month and (b) loss levels at which we cut our unit size by 1/3rd each time a drawdown level is reached:
The main point here is that even with a somewhat conservative rate of cutting back the unit size, you still have 80% of your capital at the end of an astonishingly bad period. You would also carry on cutting back if it went on further. If you never recovered at all you would still have ¾ of your capital intact by the time you retired! So don’t underestimate the importance of this.
Climbing Back Out
Once the tide has turned you then start to build your size back up. However if you reinstate size more aggressively you can accelerate the recovery back to equity highs by taking fuller advantage of the upturn.
In the following model I show the effect of the same capital preservation plan which risks a maximum monthly loss of 8% initially and reducing by 1/3rd when going down. When climbing back out this plan doubles the unit size after each successive profitable month, until full size is restored. In this way it takes 6 months of reducing from full size down to a very small unit size, but only 3 months to build back up to full size which is then maintained in the final 3 months. The result is the red line.
In contrast the blue line shows the impact of sticking with a fixed unit size throughout but still using a maximum monthly loss limit – so this line is a simple 8% loss each month on the way down and a fixed 8% monthly gain when going back up.
So after 6 bad months and 6 good months the linear plan gets right back to where it started, after enduring a gut wrenching 48% drawdown and with no certainty that it couldn’t actually continue going down to zero if the second six months also turned out to be losers!
Whereas our planned and managed approach not only recovers fully but even generates a 10% profit on what is a very bad year. But most important of all its drawdown is a much more tolerable 22%, plus the mathematical certainty that it actually cannot fall very much lower than that were the second six months to also be complete losers.
I don’t know about you, but I know exactly which one I prefer! Yes there are several practical difficulties in implementing this, which prevent a simple theory working perfectly in real life. But we can come surprisingly close with the right tactical approach and that is what I will cover next time.
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Last 4 Places Now Available
May was a pretty tough month for everyone I know, with so many shocks hitting the market and causing instant reversals on what felt like an almost daily basis. It is difficult for any strategy to perform in such a wild and random environment.
We did not escape either and our swing trading strategy had its first losing month after 14 consecutive profitable months. We knew a losing month had to arrive at some time and it finally chose May! So that was our first losing month and our worst drawdown ever.
But I am pleased to say it still wasn’t a terrible drawdown. I am even more pleased that on checking my figures last night I discovered that in the first 2 weeks of June our relatively few trades (4 winners and 1 loser) have completely recovered that drawdown and taken us right back up to equity highs.
Once again this strategy has proven just how powerful it is and I have decided to make available 4 new places for serious traders who are interested in joining myself and my small group of friends who take these trades with me. Ideally I would like to take on 2 new members this month and 2 in July, as I work closely with each person until they are fully conversant with what we do and how we do it.
Before casting the net wider I would first like to offer these last 4 places to the readers of my newsletters. So if you would be interested in adding something extra to your current trading activities please have a look at the following website and drop me a line to let me know you are interested:
www.SeriousInvestmentReturns.com
This is a swing trading strategy with typically 6 to 12 trades per month and you need to be able to risk $1,000 – $1,500 on a trade as the majority of our trades have this sort of initial risk. There are some trades with initial risk of just $600 to $800 and also a few in the more volatile markets requiring a larger risk per trade (which I advise members to skip until they have built up a decent profit). Here is the cumulative profit and loss chart for our 152 trades from the day we started (in March 2009), right up to last night:
If you are interested to hear how I came to develop this strategy, or for that matter what you need to do to develop your own, then here is a recording of an interview last year that you may find interesting:
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Managing through adversity
I have the pleasure of having met hundreds of traders, the majority of whom are full time professionals. I have regular dialog with several dozen traders as well. Guess how many have been telling me lately that they are having a great year?
Zero! Not one single person has said to me “hey Simon I am doing well at the moment”. Isn’t that strange out of all of these traders? I have had people say to me:
- “The market just doesn’t move, so I cant make money” – true earlier this year there was no opportunity whatsoever, at least none with a worthwhile risk/reward profile.
- “The markets are moving randomly on news and manipulation, so my normal signals aren’t working” – also true nothing works when a sudden shock spontaneously rewrites the supply/demand dynamic.
- “My strategy is broken, I need to throw it away and start building a new one” – wrong, don’t do it! Living through freak times does call for modified daily behaviour, but don’t discard the tools that have served you well over many years throughout normal times.
Several people have asked me what I am doing to survive until things settle down to a higher degree of normality, so here are the three things at the top of my list:
Protect your capital
The first and absolute top priority is to protect the bulk of your capital. How this is best achieved may vary from person to person, but whatever you do you must ensure you emerge from the rough times with your capital largely intact. It is pointless waiting for better times when you can be profitable once again if you are effectively blown out of the game or nursing a drawdown that is too big to be quickly recovered from when the time is right.
Keep trading
The second point is that you must keep going. That may sound at odds with the previous point. But if you cut back on the number of trades you take and the size of those trades, you can actually continue indefinitely without doing any significant damage to your capital. If necessary move onto a simulator or just paper trade. But you must keep trading, for several reasons – it keeps you in touch with the market, it keeps you active and alert, it helps you practise and hone your execution skills. Most of all it means you will be there when the silliness subsides.
That doesn’t mean you need to keep up the same long hours or to trade every day of the month. Let’s face it you are not going to make money working 60 hours a week, working half time means you are simply going to not make money half as much – if you see what I mean! There is nothing wrong with taking time off as long as you keep trading sufficiently long each week to still be in the game. After all you wouldn’t want to be taking time off when things improve, so why not make the most of the tough times?
I used to think the solution to tough times was to put more time and effort in. It was a natural way to think for those of us brought up to work harder and harder until we succeed. But I was wrong! If the market isn’t going to pay you it isn’t going to pay you and that’s all there is to know.
Do something positive
My third priority is finding something constructive to do in the business that keeps you positive. Work on something that is within your control and not that of a crazy market. It doesn’t really matter what you choose as long as you do something that is of value and something that you can feel a sense of achievement over.
I recently applied myself to taking overhead costs out of the business. Fixed costs are a drag on any business and trading is no exception although mercifully our fixed costs are more limited that most businesses. I was pleased to find savings amounting to 18% of our annual spend that I was able to eliminate. That is quite a few thousand dollars a year. But it is not the money that matters so much, although clearly it is better to have it than not. What really matters is applying yourself to doing something constructive that you can feel proud of achieving at the end of the exercise. It is certainly no replacement for getting your trading back into a profitable groove, but it is something that you have absolute control over and that no crazy market can derail you from.
So that’s my simple formula to weather the storm – protect your capital, keep trading and find something positive to do.
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Why Are You Using a Stop?
If your answer to this question is “because I have to use a stop”, then that is the right answer. But it is not the answer I am looking for.
As far as I am concerned a protective stop can be used to serve two very different purposes. It is important to know which of these purposes is the reason for using the stop. Without knowing this it is impossible to select the optimum place to put that stop.
The two uses for a protective stop are:
- As an emergency exit
- To close all or part of a position
I am not talking semantics here – these are very different propositions for very different circumstances.
The Emergency Exit
Here a stop is placed a fair distance from the current market price at a position that the market should not even get near if the hypothesis for the trade was to remain valid. This is your classic “get the heck out of here” type of order. The trade has failed and you are on the wrong side of the market, so you take your loss and move on to the next opportunity.
Such an exit may be used in any and all markets, even the thinner markets where you may experience a few ticks of slippage. That doesn’t matter for a couple of reasons – Firstly you need to get out as the probability is that losses will accelerate from this point. Secondly such stops don’t get activated very often so a few ticks of slippage won’t make any difference to your overall performance.
Closing a Position
In this case a stop order is used to close out all or part of a position. The stop is very tight to the market and is actively used as part of your trade management approach. It is often a trailing stop as well – progressively reducing risk and then locking more and more profit in. Here you are on the right side of the market, but seeking to ensure you capture the bulk of an open profit in the event of the current move ending.
This exit may only be used in deep liquid markets, where slippage is unlikely. Such an exit will be activated regularly so slippage is important and if used in markets prone to slippage the impact on your bottom line can be considerable.
Conclusion
So whilst it is easy to think of all stops being equal, they really aren’t. They are very different. Unless you are clear which one you are using it is impossible to place it in the ideal location. As you can see the two types of stop are almost total opposites. By definition this polarisation means that there must be an area in between in which you never place a stop. There is and it is a big wide area too. So if you find yourself placing a stop in this vague middle ground, you know it is the wrong place and that you have not thought through where the right place is! There is no room for:
- “I’ll give this one a bit more room” when you know it should be much tighter
- “I’ll give this less room to reduce my risk” when you know you should give the market room to breath
In both of these cases the purpose of the stop has been overlooked and both trades will suffer in the long run – the first one will dilute profits by giving up bigger losses and/or locking in smaller profits, the second will dilute profits by decreasing the percentage of winning trades by getting tagged in the noise too frequently.
How I Use Stops
In my work I use stops in exactly the two ways described above and each time I place the order I know its objective.
In short term trading in liquid markets, such as the S&P and Euro my stops are used as managed exits. I only allow any trade just a few ticks of initial risk – either the trade works or it doesn’t so I am not going to give up much on the losing trades. As the trade starts moving I will tighten the stop. When my first profit target is achieved the stop on the balance is at breakeven already. When my second target is achieved the stop on the remaining 1/3rd locks in a few ticks. On that final piece I keep tightening and tightening and I am quite happy if my final exit is achieved with that trailing stop.
My second program is swing trading in 30+ markets, some of which can be relatively thin especially at night. Here I use an emergency stop which is a long way from the current price. If something dramatic changes I want to be taken out. I must have that stop in place just in case of emergency as I also do not watch these markets intra-day, nor when I am asleep either! However when a multi-day swing trade fails to perform I try to manage the exit by working limit orders to scratch the trade or to accept a smaller loss. It is extremely rare to be stopped out of these trades with a full sized loss as the stop is there to cater for emergencies only.
So on your next trade as you place your protective stop, just check with yourself “exactly why am I placing this stop?” Without absolute certainty in your answer, the chances are the stop is in the wrong place.
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Swapping those bananas for new slippers!
Last time we discussed changing our market stall when our current product range is no longer in favour with our customers. That is a great analogy to the situation we face in the markets today. The S&P is completely untradeable at the moment, has been for quite some time now and quite possibly will continue to be like this for a while longer.
So we know we need to find a more fashionable product, one that people are actually interested in. But how do we choose that product? That’s what I want to go over today. Here is how I answered that question myself over the last few weeks…
The first question to ask is – “What attributes make for an attractive market?”
My answer to this is 4 things – “Volume, volatility, clean behaviour and personal preferences.”
Let’s tackle volume and volatility together, as these will both be present in an ideal market. Volume is all about the ease of getting orders filled vs. giving up the bid-ask spread (and more often). Volatility is about sufficient movement to make worthwhile profits. Individually they are less helpful. Take for example Eurodollars and Natural Gas. Eurodollars have huge volume but are totally inappropriate as they don’t move. Natural Gas is the opposite. No one would argue about the volatility in Nattie, but its volume is less than ideal, especially as it tends to suffer from “air pockets” where the volume is discontinuous. If you have ever been stopped out in this market and your stop was within an air pocket you will know exactly what I am describing here!
So what short of markets list can we come up with which have both volume and volatility? I looked at 4 markets – Gold, Crude Oil, British Pound and Euro (currency). These are all high volume markets with decent volatility. There are others too but they also fall within the same groups – metals, energies and currencies. So I would prefer to concentrate on the “leaders” within each group (that’s my first personal preference creeping in).
My third attribute I call “clean behaviour” which is qualitatively the way a market moves in relatively clean swings and waves versus lots of spikes and sharp movements etc. This is about maintaining decent risk/reward ratios, i.e. not having to use unreasonably wide stops for fear of quick spikes. Using this as a selection criterion, the currencies seemed most attractive, Crude the least attractive and Gold somewhere in the middle. I wouldn’t rule any out based on this alone but it helps in starting to prioritise them.
Now let’s talk about preferences. For me there were two things I wanted to consider (a) time zone and (b) dependence on speculators. In terms of time zone my ideal would be to be able to trade during either or both of the main European and American sessions, to give me flexibility in my day.
The second is more vague and based on no more than a gut feeling I have that people have considerably less appetite for speculation than they used to have. If there is any validity to this it is probably due to a combination of the economic environment plus the recent memory of markets in meltdown. Neither of which is going to subside for some years. The evidence is the total lack of volume in the stock market, which is a purely speculative market after all. So ideally I would choose a market that has little dependence on speculation for its volume.
These factors again put currencies in a more favourable position than Gold or Crude. The volume in the currency markets is predominantly reliant on international trade. Whereas Gold has not been driven to its current levels just be people wanting to make jewellery for sure!
So having homed in on the currencies as being the more likely candidates, is it the Pound or the Euro? Actually this was an easy decision. The Euro has considerably higher volume, especially during the European session. In addition the contract size is twice as big and hence would consume half the brokerage and execution costs.
So just to get back to where we started, having identified the Euro as our prime candidate, how does volume and volatility look?
I looked back at the last few weeks, breaking the day into 30 minute segments to examine the average volume and average range within those periods. In case you are wondering why I used a small sample size it is because I am only interested in what is happing now and not what happened 3 years ago etc. Take the S&P as an example, you would get great stats looking back 3 years but it would not reflect what is happening today at all.
During the European session (within which I like to trade 7:30 – 11:30am UK time) the Euro is typically trading 5000 contracts and a 20 point range per 30 minute segment. This is perfectly tradable and is actually very impressive for a Chicago listed contract in the middle of the American night.
The American session (within which I like to trade 1:30 – 5:30pm UK time) sees a slightly better range of around 25 points combined with the obvious explosion in volume that would be expected.
These are clearly great trading environments during both sessions and not too surprisingly we have selected the Euro as our main market whilst taking great delight in kicking the S&P into touch for the time being.
There is also one other factor that makes the Euro attractive. Like all currency markets it is predominantly a cash market (circa 95% cash), with derivatives being miniscule “add ons” that have no influence whatsoever on the market. So the futures, which we prefer to trade, simply track the cash. Therefore we don’t have to worry about events such as contract rollovers, option expirations etc, which can have significant impacts in the stock market for example. The currency markets don’t give a damn about such things, so we don’t have to either.
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